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Lobby for a permanent dojo
yes
75%
 75%  [ 15 ]
no
25%
 25%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 20

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budomuso
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: Martial Arts at Maynooth

There is a large number of martial arts groups active at Maynooth.
Here's a proposal - how about we lobby for an "NUI Maynooth Budokan", a purpose built, permanently matted, fully equiped Dojo. Now that the GAA jocks have their new boozer extension or whatever it is, its time the 'niche interests' got a look in levy-wise.
I dont think such a thing is beyond feesable. The Japanese embassy can be quite helpful with grants and support and such for these kind of cultural projects.


<edit to add poll - see below - Kíla>

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Buffy
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject:

While I think it's a good idea, I know that on some occasions, there are three martial arts clubs practising at once in the various halls, so surely if we only had one place to practice there would have to be a slight cut back on practice times for the various clubs?
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject:

It would have to be at least the size of the large sports hall and you would have to be able to section it off. Plus buying mats for such a large area and a covering for them too becuase they would so get ruined very quickly if they were left down all the time. Very very expensive.
not to mention not all of the martial arts practiced here are japanese.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject:

they were meant to do this in the original plans for the extended sports facilities but of course it was one of the first things to be cut. It was to be a large room upstairs with mirrors on one (or was it two) wall(s) and all mats, reserved exclusivley for the martial arts clubs.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:43 pm    Post subject:

pity. ah well.
Anyway there are only three clubs that use the mats to my knowledge and they are judo aikido and self defence. All the rest train on the floor.
I really dont think there would be much point other providing extra training space.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:45 pm    Post subject:

Have put a poll in the original post, to get a sort of concensus thing going.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:50 pm    Post subject:

Razz wrote:

Anyway there are only three clubs that use the mats to my knowledge and they are judo aikido and self defence. All the rest train on the floor.


Do you really think that has a whole lot to do with choice? Sure for things such as kata and practising techniques (in Karate Kick-Boxing etc.) a floor is the best but for sparring mats are needed.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject:

And, to be perfectly honest, the three mat-using martial arts clubs tend to be quite territorial about our mats thanks to seeing people ruin mats by wearing shoes on them. If I remember correctly, the year the Irish National Karate Championships were run here, DCU provided the mats...and a good thing too, the bloody WKO refs were wearing hard-soled dress shoes and leaving crescent-shaped rips everywhere.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject:

The WKO ref DIDN'T wear their shoes, it was the other morons that unfortunately had to be drafted in. I did have great fun that day telling these big-wigs (in their own heads) to take off their shoes or leave.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject:

m0x1e wrote:
[snip] DCU provided the mats [...] leaving crescent-shaped rips everywhere.
Shocked IT WAS YOU!! Laughing

There are definite pros and cons into a designate hall for martial arts, but to make it viable you have to open scope. You need a maintained wooden floor and mats. All bare-foot or soft-sole shoe codes could deal with this. The "hall" would probably have to be hired out to other groups (as I presume students wouldn't train between e.g. the hours of 9am - 2pm). These groups could be yoga, aerobics (tai-bo), gymnastics (ninja school) in keeping with the team.

The main thing is that you have to prove it would be better all-round than the current situation, and have everyone in your clubs on board and lobbying together. Unfortunately despite some good efforts in DCU, we couldn't even get new mats, nor could we get some of the longer established clubs behind us.

Good luck if you try, but make sure you got all the weapons you need. Wink

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject: full time training hall

Last summer I was in the Galileo Galilei University in Valencia, Spain, just for a couple of weeks, but still got the chance to try out new things (of course martial art related Smile, say nothing of hablando el espanol)

Anyway, sports complex free for us to use... they had a full time dojo/dojang/kwoon... martial arts place basically Smile

Think of when you;ve laid mats out properly (maynooth people don't need to imagine, I'm talking like you set you rmats up anyway..., Crash, Say about four or five ever increasing circlesfor two mats in centre, you know what i mean)
Anyway, It was that width, twice the length, then a bit or space on the side. front and back walls had mirrors (long walls), splitting the room in two was a curtain which could be pulled out of the way, the first half of room as you walk in had wooden floor, the karate club did their thin there,
then the opposite side, where people didn't have to wear shoes on, was fully matted out.

It was basically a constant place to train, four martial arts clubs in the university, and if you went in between 10 and 5 any week day there were people training there...


It was just so nice to see it done right, you know...

There was plenty of space in the unmatted section of floor for the aerobics they did in the evenings, and option of mats or no mats for whichecver club was in there at any specific time...

It was great.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject:

The problem for us here is getting people not use our mats when we are not there. If we had a permenant dojo set up then we would have to make sure only specific people had access to it or else people (avec shoes) would use it and wreck the mats.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject:

Asmo wrote:
make sure only specific people had access to it or else people (avec shoes) would use it and wreck the mats.


That was the great bane on my time on the DCUMAC committee, but let me share my experience as when it became appartent we couldn't get a dedicated MA area, we fought for the mats. We found out that the mat's we purchased for official clubs only, and the Complex could borrow them as a thank you for "storing them". But their use was never monitored. I got all the clubs that regularly use them to agree on a code of conduct for the mats (no shoes and regualr cleaning), and we came up storage plan:

The mats would be stacked on their trolley, wrap with a tarp and with two rachet straps (the type used for holding cargo on lorries) going under the trolley and over the tarpped mats. The mechanism on the straps would have a pad-lock preventing them from opening. The keys for the locks would be kept behind the reception desk at the complex and only official clubs and complex personnal would have access to them.

Unfortunately for us, while the Sports Club Committee agreed on the idea on principle, they never took any steps to implement it (like get funds for a tarp), and get agreement with the sports complex.

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saoilí
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject:

I'm not sure there's that much of an advantage really. I think that setting up and tearing down a dojo is a good warm up / down to be honest. My two cent.

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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject:

Razz wrote:
Plus buying mats for such a large area and a covering for them too becuase they would so get ruined very quickly if they were left down all the time.


Not necessarily, Razz. Don't you remember the dojo at Pearse St? It's permanently matted, and it's in fantastic condition, because the members take good care of it. But then again, it's not part of a university, so there's no problem with non-aikido people wrecking it. *grin*
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Martial Arts at Maynooth

budomuso wrote:
The Japanese embassy can be quite helpful with grants and support and such for these kind of cultural projects


That's an interesting angle. Is that feasible?
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject:

i think its a good idea to lobby for a permanant dojo, but does anybody honestly think that funding would be available, i doubts it

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Wingnut
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject:

Estelindis wrote:
Razz wrote:
Plus buying mats for such a large area and a covering for them too becuase they would so get ruined very quickly if they were left down all the time.


Not necessarily, Razz. Don't you remember the dojo at Pearse St? It's permanently matted, and it's in fantastic condition, because the members take good care of it. But then again, it's not part of a university, so there's no problem with non-aikido people wrecking it. *grin*


Um, you could permanently mat it, but then what about ppl who practise styles were you dont train in your barefeet?

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:36 pm    Post subject:

Well, they're not technically martial artists anyway.
You see, the term "Martial Artist" is a direct translation from the ancient Japanese "Moshu Arsto", meaning (as we all know) "Member of the NUI Maynooth Self-Defence Club". So all those people prancing around in brightly-coloured pyjamas and shouting, while cute and all (and anyways?), are actually not really martial artists.
There, glad we cleared that one up!

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:41 pm    Post subject:

and I thought you liked those fancy pyjamas, prob see you in one soon!

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