Kata and Kumite.

Arthus · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: Kata and Kumite.

Whats the difference between Kata and Kumite?

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Capt. Flame Retardant · Living it up Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 462

kata is a type of toasted bun, usually served to important guests.

kumite is a topic of conversation forbidden by mandarin law, circa 800a.d. (forgive the anachronistic use of dating here), but still used to indicate what we would call a faux pas.

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Arthus · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject:

petals · The Shy One Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 4962 Location: gone

I was told Kata was something we do for gradings in Karate (a way of practicing punches and blocks or something.) Oh I don't know? Confused

Haven't a clue what the other one is Confused

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Winter · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:

kata is a practice where you fight in sequence multiple invisible opponents. Its about form, and accuracy, as well as style etc.
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Arthus · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject:

Well in a tournie I have coming up in a while its devided into Kata and Kumite. Confused

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Winter · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject:

I reckon kumite is another term for actual combat though I may be wrong, twas not a word commonly used when I trained. *god I'm gettin auld*
But in a kata competition its all bout pulling off the moves as flawlessly as you can in sequence.
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Winter · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject:

Yeah kumite is combat I checked
Kata: Performance, technique
Kumite: Combat, reflexes
Thats pretty much it in a nutshell
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petals · The Shy One Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 4962 Location: gone

lookie here:
http://www.may.ie/service/student_services/clubs/karate/

It has stuff on Kata and Kumite.
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Buffy · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:08 am Post subject:

Kata are forms that you learn off - a sequence or routine of movements. They can be performed by yourself, in a group, and with or without weapons.

Kumite is the fighting/sparring part of the tournament, usually light contact, divided into continuous and points sparring. The major difference there is that with points sparring, every time someone scores a point (or something similar happens) the ref will call a stop. You'll return to your starting point, and he (and whoever else is overseeing) will make a call and award a point to either side. With continuous, the fight doesn't stop. Points are kept track of, and the winner decided by a comparison at the end.
Kumite is also divided a number of other ways, the most obvious being a male/female divide. Then, depending on who's running the tournament and how many enter, you may be divided by level (junior/senior), vague belt system, weight, or anything else they can come up with.

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Twigster · Groupie Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 580 Location: studying

the most important thing about kata is technique and ability to do various attacks/blocks while making them look sharp and focussed, a lot of things a taken into account like stance and posture.

The karate union of australia has a pretty good site, here's the link to the kata page:

http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm

KMcD · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject:

as previous posters have said, kata=predefined movements scored on technique strength etc. Kumite is fighting, a japanese word.

Kumite is the be and end all, the alpha and omega of my life.

Konsu · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject:

kata are your forms
kumite is sparring

crashaid · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject:

FYI, we might also se Kobudo mentioned in competitions - these are weapon kata.

Arthus · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject:

Ah. I'll be doing Kumite then. Smile

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