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archdukefranz
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Night life of Dublin
 

At about 9 tonight I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop beside the statoil on the keys, and 4 pissed guys started making fools of themselves.

Course lucky me, one of them chooses me to get aggressive with, he comes over and grabs my jacket.

Now I know how to get out of that situation, not that difficult... on the mats. Because I don't have to actually have to hit someone.

But when it came to it, I did nothing, I stood there being very afraid.
A couple of seconds later he friends tried to pull him off and eventually succeeded when their bus came.

What should I have done?

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Lunatic Buddha
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject:
 

One of the problems is that using the stuff you've learnt is sposed to be as a last resort, But it's very difficult to tell when exactly the last resort is before something nasty happens, barring excellent reflexes.

What you did was the right move, specially as there were three other friends of his nearby. Imo.
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raptor_strife
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject:
 

Agree with Maximillian's points there. It certainly wasn't time for a last resort, as you had no idea what was going to happen. Standing and doing nothing prevented further provocation of the drunk asshole, whereas if you had flattened him, you would have just made the situation erupt.
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Apoch
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject:
 

should have stabbed him.
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Anti-girl
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject:
 

Apoch wrote:
should have stabbed him.
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LMFAO/

yes , i agree with apoch.

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Asmo
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject:
 

If you tried something and it failed you would have been in major trouble because it would have looked aggressive.
What you did was right. Dont do anything unless he swings at you.
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Sexy Davy
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject:
 

I would have tried to back away and get his hand off me in a non-threatening manner. When it four against one you don't want to get into a fight with all of them.
One guy - yes. Two maybe. Three or four, no way.

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archdukefranz
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:58 am    Post subject:
 

Then again, if his friends hadn't decided to try to pull him off, it could have turned out differently. At what point do you reckon you would try to defend yourself.
At what point is some being aggressive enough for hurting them to be the safest option

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H12345
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject:
 

Stick your fingers in his eye and pull it out whilst screaming "he touched my special place", none of his mates are going to go anywhere near you!

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raptor_strife
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject:
 

archdukefranz wrote:
Then again, if his friends hadn't decided to try to pull him off, it could have turned out differently. At what point do you reckon you would try to defend yourself.
At what point is some being aggressive enough for hurting them to be the safest option


The point you need to try to take control would be when he actually swings or tries to hurt you rather than just grabbing you and doing nothing. In this case with his friends though, the best thing you could have done if he had swung would be to flatten him and RUN!
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Vegeta
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject:
 

H12345 wrote:
Stick your fingers in his eye and pull it out whilst screaming "he touched my special place", none of his mates are going to go anywhere near you!


ya act all gay towards him...its bound to work...
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H12345
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject:
 

Vegeta wrote:


ya act all gay towards him...its bound to work...


Or you rile up 4 drunk homophobs who proceed to dance the 1st three acts of riverdance on your head!!

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Vegeta
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject:
 

H12345 wrote:
Vegeta wrote:


ya act all gay towards him...its bound to work...


Or you rile up 4 drunk homophobs who proceed to dance the 1st three acts of riverdance on your head!!


whichevers good really....much of a muchness.....
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Lunatic Buddha
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject:
 

Your basic goal is to not get hurt. I agree with Raptor, if he took a swing, take him out and get the hell out of there. If the bunch were inebriated, you'd probably be able to outdistance them without too much hassle.

As for when to fight back, you'd have to ask someone else. I have no idea how I'd deal with that situation, and I hope I never have to find out.
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Clive
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject:
 

Quote:
But when it came to it, I did nothing, I stood there being very afraid.


Did you decide not to do anything (not wanting to escalate the situation), or did you "freeze"?

If it's the first then fair play and I'm glad it worked out well. Personally I don't let anyone put their hands on me like that, but to each their own.

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mark.leonard
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:40 pm    Post subject:
 

My money is on the latter, that you froze, and you shouldn't worry about that. If that was your first encounter like that then a lot of people freeze due to the new experience of crazy amounts of adrenaline being dumped all at once. So step 1 - don't beat yourself up over doing something that 90% of people do in the same situation. Just use positive affirmation like telling yourself "next time I will react" and don't dwell anymore on it.

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Vegeta
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject:
 

hear hear....everyone does it the first time(i hear Whistle ).The only way wou will get better is with practice....and lets face it...nobody wants to practice so theres no point really about talking about it
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